Joan B., Illinois, sent this email entitled “More information on peroxide.”
This has been going around cyberspace and being passed on, but many folks wonder – Is it true? Is the list of uses of hydrogen peroxide safe? Here is the e-mail sent to Joan:
You’re probably aware of some of these uses, but others may surprise you. This is being passed along as written by a Becky Ramsey of Indiana, saying that “it’s too good not to share.” Becky writes: “I would like to tell you of the benefits of that plain little old bottle of 3% peroxide you can get for approx $1.00 at any drug store. My husband has been in the medical field for over 36 years, and most doctors don’t tell you about peroxide, or they would lose thousands of dollars.1. Take one capful (the little white cap that comes with the bottle) and
hold in your mouth for 10 minutes daily, then spit it out. (I do it when I
bathe or shower.) No more canker sores and your teeth will be whiter without
expensive pastes. Use it instead of mouthwash.
2. Let your toothbrushes soak a cup peroxide to keep them free of germs.
3. Clean your counters, table tops with peroxide to kill germs and leave a
fresh smell. Simply put a little on your dishrag when you wipe, or spray it
on the counters.
4. After rinsing off your wooden cutting board, pour peroxide on it to
kill salmonella and other bacteria.
5. I had fungus on my feet for years – until I sprayed a 50/50 mixture of
peroxide and water on them (especially the toes) every night and let dry.
6. Soak any infections or cuts in 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes
several times a day. My husband has seen gangrene that would not heal with
any medicine, but was healed by soaking in peroxide.
7. Fill a spray bottle with a 50/50 mixture of peroxide and water and keep
it in every bathroom to disinfect without harming your septic system like
bleach or most other disinfectants will.
8. Tilt your head back and spray into nostrils with your 50/50 mixture
whenever you have a cold, plugged sinus. It will “Bubble” and help to kill
the bacteria. Hold for a few minutes then blow your nose into tissue.
9. Put half a bottle of peroxide in your bath to help rid boils, fungus, or other skin infections. (Wish I had known this growing up, I stillhave scars from boils)
10. If you have a terrible toothache and can not get to a dentist right
away, put a capful of 3% peroxide into your mouth and hold it for ten
minutes several times a day. The pain will lessen greatly.
11. And of course, if you like a natural look to your hair, spray the
50/50 solution on your wet hair after a shower and comb it through. You
will not have the peroxide burnt blond hair like the hair dye packages, but
more natural highlights if your hair is a light brown, faddish, or dirty
blond. It also lightens gradually so it’s not a drastic change.
12. You can also add a cup of peroxide instead of bleach to a load of
whites in your laundry to whiten them. If there is blood on clothing, pour
directly on the soiled spot. Let it sit for a minute, then rub it and rinse
with cold water. Repeat if necessary.
I could go on and on. It is a little brown bottle no home should be
without. With prices of most necessities rising, I’m glad there’s a way to
save tons of money in such a simple, healthy manner… “
Myth Blaster Verdict: TRUE AND FALSE.
According to Wikipedia:
“Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is a clear liquid, slightly more viscous than water. It has strong oxidizing properties and is therefore a powerful bleaching agent that has found use as a disinfectant, as an oxidizer, and in rocketry (particularly in high concentrations as high-test peroxide (HTP) as a monopropellant) and in bipropellant systems.”
Let’s examine each item in the “informational” e-mail:
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- “Take one capful and hold in your mouth for 10 minutes daily, then spit it out.” The e-mail is correct that peroxide bought over the counter is a 3% solution. Using it to rinse your mouth is not harmful, as long as you do not swallow any of it. When the peroxide rinse is done, be sure to rinse out your mouth with tap water. Some “whitening” toothpastes contain a diluted amount of peroxide.
- “Let your toothbrushes soak in a cup of peroxide to keep them free of germs.” Peroxide is disinfectant – true.
- “Clean your counters, table tops with peroxide to kill germs and leave a fresh smell.” Peroxide is a disinfectant – true.
- “After rinsing off your wooden cutting board, pour peroxide on it to kill salmonella and other bacteria.” Peroxide is a disinfectant – true. You can also use it to rinse off your meat before cooking.
- “I had fungus on my feet for years – until I sprayed a 50/50 mixture of peroxide and water on them (especially the toes) every night and let dry.” According to the way this is written, it implies that a 50% solution of peroxide with water should be used. At that strength, it would be harmful – and hard to get. Purchase of hydrogen peroxide in 30% or more of a concentration requires a special permit. While pretty harmless over the counter (3%) – the more concentrated the more dangerous. Hydrogen Peroxide gas is also extremely flammable.
- “Soak any infections or cuts in 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes several times a day.” Just a washing/rinsing action is sufficient. You shouldn’t leave the solution on open tissue for extended periods of time because it will defeat its purpose.
- “Fill a spray bottle with a 50/50 mixture of peroxide and water and keep it in every bathroom to disinfect without harming your septic system like bleach or most other disinfectants will.” Bleach does not harm the septic tank, according to our septic service, and the “50/50 mixture is diluted from a 3% over-the-counter bottle found at stores.
- “Tilt your head back and spray into nostrils with your 50/50 mixture whenever you have a cold, plugged sinus.” Definitely false – at that mixture you may have no sinus cavity left. If you were going to use a spray for your nose you would have to dilute the 3% over-the-counter bottle to like 1%. Always consult your doctor before trying things like this, despite the e-mail sender’s claim that your doctor won’t tell you because it wouldn’t profit him/her or the medical field industry. That sentence alone should have warned readers to check this out. The person doesn’t want you to seek advice.
- “Put half a bottle of peroxide in your bath to help rid boils, fungus, or other skin infections.” I haven’t found anything on this particular recommendation, but a 3% solution further diluted in your bath shouldn’t harm you as long as you do not get it in your eyes or ingest it.
- “If you have a terrible toothache and can not get to a dentist right away, put a capful of 3% peroxide into your mouth and hold it for ten minutes several times a day. The pain will lessen greatly.” Hydrogen peroxide is not a pain killer.
- “And of course, if you like a natural look to your hair, spray the 50/50 solution on your wet hair after a shower and comb it through.” Peroxide is a bleaching agent, so if you want your hair lightened, it can be used. However, at the 50/50 dosage, you would be burned. If you just want a highlight, dilute the 3% solution and comb in your hair. No harm done. Peroxide has been long used in beauty parlors for women who want to lighten their hair color.
- “You can also add a cup of peroxide instead of bleach to a load of whites in your laundry to whiten them.” It is true that blood stains are more easily removed with peroxide; however, it is a bleaching solution, so be careful with colored clothes. Chlorine bleach is also a bleaching solution and about as economical as peroxide. One advantage is that chlorine has a strong odor, and if you are like my cousin, CJ, you may get a reaction to it – in this case, peroxide is a perfect alternate solution to keep those clothes white. Also, when chlorinating clothes, they tend to wear out faster – peroxide won’t do that.
Hydrogen peroxide comes in a “brown” bottle because sunlight affects it. Keep it in a cool, dark place for longer shelf life. Peroxide rinses in your mouth will help if you have infected gums or any type of problem like mouth sores.
One last and important thing: Recently the method of injecting solutions of hydrogen peroxide in the body to treat cancer has been reportedly used. It is useless for advanced stages and has caused the death of the patient they were trying to cure. Internal use of H2O2 is not recommended.
For more information:
My understanding of the 50/50 solution in the hydrogen peroxide list of uses was that the mixture was half (50) 3% H2O2 and half (50) water. It seemed that the alleged author, as mentioned in the opening paragraph, was speaking only of 3% H2O2 throughout the list. With that understanding, are some of the false statements (with the 50/50 suggestions) now true? Thanks.
Thanks for your comment.
If one uses 50% of a 3% solution, which is 1.5% in proportion, then the answer is “True.” The gist of the posting was to warn folks of the harm of improper dosages, and specifically a warning against internal consumptions – and a bit of the background and uses of H2O2. Thanks for your input, appreciate it.
I have been trying to find out if Hydrogen Peroxide can safely be used as an aniseptic for minor cuts and abrasions. If so, what is the shelf life of a bottle of peroxide once it is operned? Can it grow some types of bacteria in the bottle once opened?
The 3% solution bought in the store is safe as an antiseptic. The shelf life should be on the bottle. Bacteria does not grow in the bottle after being opened, the chemical deteriorates after a period of time. Keep out of direct sunlight (thus the bottle is usually dark brown) and a cool place. It does not require refrigeration.
someone told me that 50% of the 3% mixed with 50% water can help clean out ear wax. my son has small ear canals and the wax does not come out like everyone elses. so i was wondering if i should try that. thank you
Mary:
I am not qualified to answer such questions. Your best source would be the local pharmacist. The Myth Blaster was just a report that contained the dangers of peroxide and something about the product that people may not have been aware of. Thank you for your inquiry and stopping by to visit LPJ.
H2O2 definately has a shelf life once the bottle is opened. The only way I know to test this is to see how much it “Fizzes”. I also thought I’d read somewhere that once you dilute it with water, you should use it right away as it’s oxidizing/fizzing will be quickly lost. Can you back this up or discredit?
Your right about fizzing, it especially fizzes when it comes in contact with blood. This is something that forensics used before modern technology to identify blood stains at murder scenes.
But I digress.
I am, by no means, a chemist, in fact my wife has more knowledge about this than I do being a licensed and certified Pharmacy Technician. But using common knowledge of the substance, whether diluted or not, once it is removed from the light-free bottle, it should be used to prevent it from losing its potence.
Thanks, Karen, for posting your comments.
I believe she means 50% of 3% peroxide mixture with 50% water. Not 50% strength. She means 50/50. That’s the 3% peroxide….measure 1/2 cup (3%) of that with 1/2 cup of water. That is how I interpreted it.
Hmm, in that case, put it in a light-free bottle and keep in a cool place.
The whole idea of the article was to warn readers about the danger of hydrogen peroxide and at the same time the usefulness of it.
Thanks Joy for the info.
I am particularly interested in the original statement that holding hp in your mouth for 10 minutes will neutralize your mouth so you won’t get canker sores, which I get a lot. Do you know if this is true?
My dentist says he thinks hp has been linked to cancer–do you know about that as well?
Actually, HP doesn’t prevent canker sores, it helps get rid of them. Canker sores are caused by lack of Vitamin C. Try boosting your input of Vitamin C with supplements and see if canker sores are reduced or disappear.
As far as your dentist linking HP to cancer, I have found no verified research proving this. I am not a qualified chemist nor medical person, I only get information from medical journals and scientific periodicals concerning such things. You can do your own research on the Internet that has a vast informational library and hundreds of subject material.
I have been searching to see if HP would kill bacteria in the laundry. I have found several different uses for it such as vegetable wash etc. I haven’t so far found the answer to my question. If it does kill bacteria on food/skin/ wouldn’t it work the same for the laundry? Have you ever read an answer to that question… or could you provide any links to scientific periodicals I could follow?
Elaine:
Well, way back folks use to bleach their hair with Peroxide, and also wash their whites in them – but would not recommend using it to wash colored clothes. I remember that mother washed diapers (back when diapers were cloth) in Peroxide to kill the germs. Some say it is easier on the fabric than bleach because repeated washes with the latter tends to break down the material and cause the cloth to fall apart faster. I have no idea why folks use bleach nowadays rather than Hydrogen Peroxide.
Maybe another reader has more information on this.
Beth,
Re: canker sores, the answer about vitamin C is not correct as I take megadoses of vitamin C daily (in different forms – I used to take pure ascorbic acid in water or juice, then later Ester-C and now I take calcium-ascorbate), and I’d still get canker sores, sometimes a few very painfull ones at the same time.
But there is a definite connection between canker sores and what you eat and quite possibly with amalgam fillings. Canker sores seem to be caused by some type of candida, therefore eating foods that promote candida is bad for you, namely foods that have hi glycemic index like watermelons (I always get sores after eating lots of watermellons), sweets, cookies, pudding (!), even white pasta). OTOH, foods that surpress candida help a lot: good kefir for instance is best. It contains yeast which kills off the bad yeast in our intestines. Grapes may be good because they clean everything…
Never tried H2O2, but will.
Also, squeezing vitamin E pill (400 I.U.) directly on the sore just before sleep helps a lot!
Keith..I can attest to the fact that Peroxide…right out of the bottle..will help stop a toothache… instantly..it might not be a pain killer..but it works…and should be tried..however ..of course do not swallow it..as far as holding it in your mouth for 10 minutes..I think that is a bit excessive. and be sure to rinse out your mouth with water afterwards.
It should be stored capped…leave the cap off and it will deteriorate quickly..however I have stored bottles of it for several years and it was still effective and fizzed..when in contact with blood or body fluids.
I once had a goat which had been dehorned…flies got in the hole and laid eggs..in there…the vet had me pour peroxide down into the holes..which would have gone into his sinuses…he did not like it ..but it got the maggots out..and it healed up….I of course from that moment on ..I kept the holes left from dehorning him covered ,so flies did not get into it again. first and last time I had a vet dehorn a goat.
It used to be one would see …stronger peroxide on the drug store shelves..but around here it is only 3 % now…and yes…… keith ..I also took the 50/ 50 mix to mean 3 % ….1/2 water …1/2….. 3 % peroxide….I attribute that to a difference between women and men ..reading the same thing….women are used to reading recipes…formulas..etc..etc….. LOL sorry…my bad..dude. LOL!!!
By 50/50 mixture I am certain she means 1/2 parts 3% hydrogen peroxide and 1/2 parts water. So does that make the statements with the 50/50 ratio true?
Yes, she meant 50/50 concerning the 3% solution, my statements were concerning 50/50 of pure solution.
I got this exact email and was researching its validity when I came to your site. My question, if you choose to research it, is this: Is diluted bleach just as safe as peroxide?
Mary:
Thank you for visiting and providing your comment …
Actually, bleach is more “toxic” than peroxide in a couple of ways, one of them being the fumes can be harmful. Also, if improperly mixed with other chemicals, it can become unstable and also produce an extremely harmful vapor. But, despite all of those precautions, it is a useful and beneficial substance. Chlorine is used to keep harmful bacteria, et cetera out of our swimming pools – of course in a highly diluted form. It is also used for other anti-bacterial situations in cleaning our houses, et cetera.
Some people must use peroxide instead of chlorine bleach because they get adverse reactions to the chemical. To say is or isn’t as “safe” as peroxide is a question depending upon how it is used.
Manufacturers are required to provide important safety details – do’s and don’ts – that is on the package. I highly recommend that everyone, whatever the product read the instructions and warnings before using anything they are not already familiar with.
A special precaution would be using chlorine products around pets, mainly because it can get on their paws and both dogs and cats groom their paws with their tongues. Diluted bleach might give someone a bad case of diarrhea, but it could also be life threatening. So, of course, pay attention to the labels.
Thanks for your comment, Mary. Hope you enjoy the other articles posted here almost daily or more than one per day. Readers help provide the subject material, and although the Myth Blaster articles seem to be most popular according to the amount of visits, there is more to Lighthouse Patriot Journal than addressing problems with chain-mail hoaxes. Readers also provide interesting discussion material, as you have this day. Thanks.
For many years I have used 3% peroxide in my older children’s ears when they complain of an ear ache. I’ve poured peroxide directly in ear, wait for the bubbles to appear (many times along with wax), then have the child lay on the ear to allow to drain. Usually, after doing this twice, the child no longer complained of an ear ache. My physician has said this is fine to do.
Linda:
The peroxide you are referring to at 3% strength can be purchased over the counter.
And, peroxide is excellent for cleaning out and loosening up ear wax that can cause problems, or is the result of an ear infection – as your doctor stated. I am not a qualified doctor and the discussion was warning folks about using a high strength dosage, et cetera. Peroxide, like WD-40 is a product that has many uses.
Thanks for your comment and this important information.
I just wanted to say that the comments about the causes of canker sores are incorrect/not the whole truth.
While it is true that vitamin C deficiency can lead to mouth sores, you would have to be seriously deficient (scurvy) and would have much bigger problems than mouth sores.
Similarly, Candida infection can cause thrush and give you mouth sores or at least mouth pain… but if you have a weak enough immune system to keep getting thrush, you probably have bigger problems than a canker sore or two. Causes of thrush are immune deficiency (HIV, chemo, serious illness, etc), antibiotic use (temporary, but it’s because the “good” bacteria get killed off so other bugs can grow), diabetes (immune system is wacky in diabetes, plus high blood sugar levels feed the yeast and make it grow), breastfeeding (baby and mom both get it and pass it back and forth), etc… So, while you can certainly get mouth sores with an oral Candida infection, it is uncommon if you don’t have risk factors, and so it certainly isn’t the most common cause of mouth sores.
The most common things that cause canker sores are minor trauma to the lining of your mouth… biting your cheek/tongue, having braces on your teeth, etc.
The virus that gives you cold sores also causes canker sores (herpes simplex), and you can also get mouth sores from the virus that causes hand-foot-mouth disease (coxsackievirus), as well as others. I believe you can get canker sores from bacterial infections, too, but I am not 100% sure on the specifics of that one.
Chemotherapy drugs can cause bad mouth sores. This happens as a direct result of the drug (kills cells that divide rapidly, whether they are tumor cells or hair follicle cells or cells that line your mouth/GI tract) and also because of the immunosuppression that chemo causes (can’t fight off the viruses/fungi/bacteria).
It would make sense that H2O2 would help with your canker sores if they are caused by yeast, viruses, or bacteria. If it’s from yeast, dealing with the underlying cause that predisposes you to thrush would be more definitive treatment (treat the immune deficiency, take care of your blood sugar if you are diabetic, finish your course of antibiotics, outgrow the need to breastfeed). Treating an infection that causes canker sores usually isn’t necessary unless they are part of a bigger illness or your immune system is compromised, but you can use antifungals (gentian violet, diflucan, etc) or antivirals (acyclovir, gancyclovir, etc) if they are clinically appropriate. Antibacterial mouthwash can help, too, though it stings.
The peroxide could probably also help with canker sores caused by minor mouth trauma, like biting your cheek/tongue or having braces on your teeth, because it would keep the sores clean and let your body work at healing them faster. In this case, though, usually just plain waiting for it to heal is all that is needed. Plus, if you have braces, it helps to keep wax on any brackets/wires that poke you and cause irritation.
Taking some vitamin C wouldn’t hurt, because it is pretty safe even if you take WAY more than your body needs, since you just pee it out. But unless you actually have scurvy, it probably won’t address the underlying cause of your canker sores by taking vitamin C. In general, it is better to get your vitamins by having a good diet than to take a bunch of supplements. So have some orange juice, strawberries, kiwi, etc if you think you’re low on the vitamin C. Eating a bunch of fruits and veggies everyday is the best way to ensure you’re getting your vitamins in your diet, and eating fruits and veggies is good for you, anyway.
Kira:
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The basic canker sore is aphthous ulcer, the canker sore being an ulcer of the mouth that can be caused by several problems, a couple of which you have mentioned. Canker sores are “shallow, painful sores of the mouth. They are usually red or may sometimes have a white coating over them.” They can be on the inside of lips, inside of cheeks or at the bast of gums or tongue. Canker sores are not fever blisters found on the outside of lips or the corners of the mouth. Anyone can get canker sores, however, women in their teens and 20s get them more often. They may be hereditary, but not contagious. Thus far doctors don’t know the actual cause of canker sores, but they are usually triggered by stress, poor nutrition, food allergies and menstrual periods (which is stressful to the body). There are medicines available, but like the common cold the symptoms are treatable, but not the disease itself (pain). Therefore, Tylenol, Anbesol, Oragel, Orabase and Zilactin-B are taken for the symptoms of pain and prevent becoming irritated by eating, drinking or brushing teeth. It is believed in the general medical entity that taking vitamin C or vitamin B complex or just using a natural sage-and-chamomile homeopathic treatment will help canker sores heal faster. Old fashion remedies include rinsing with hydrogen peroxide to lessen bacterial action and help heal the open sore.
Canker sores or mouth ulcers run the gamut of cause, one as you mentioned is Herpes. Dietary deficiency is the primary reason for the common canker sore, along with menstrual periods and food allergies as well. They also occur in cohesion with viral infections. In some cases doctors have difficulty determining the actual cause. Less common symptoms accompanied with canker sores are: fever, general discomfort or malaise (uneasiness), and swollen lymph nodes. A skin lesion biopsy can distinguish a canker sore from other causes of mouth ulcers. Sometimes tetracycline is administered, but most doctors try not to use antibiotic frivolously and is not given to children until after their permanent teeth have fully developed because it will discolor the still-forming teeth (a mistake doctors have made in the past). In rare cases anti-inflammatory medicines are administered in the form of corticosteroids. To prevent bacterial infection to accompany the canker sore it is recommended that one brush their teeth regularly and mix 1 part hydrogen peroxide (over-the-counter strength) and one part water and apply it to the canker sore with a cotton swab. Then dab a small amount of milk of magnesia on the canker 3-4 times per day, which helps relieve discomfort. If the canker sore/mouth ulcer lasts more than 2 weeks, see your doctor for a cancer checkup. If fever is accompanied with cankers sores, as well as diarrhea, headache or skin rash, call your health care provider.
Scurvy, which is not mentioned in the article, is a definitive vitamin C deficiency, also called Barlow disease, Cheadle disease, et cetera. Scurvy is a disease that was more common in ancient periods of human history. Egyptians recorded it as early as 1550 BC and usually sailors got it, which is thoroughly recorded during the Renaissance era of history (16th-18th centuries). James Lind, British naval surgeon in 1746, established the fact that oranges and lemons (high vitamin C content) were effective in curing scurvy. When this treatment or rather preventive was administered in sailors’ diet, the disease occurrence sharply declined. Infantile scurvy during this era was attributed to the consumption of heated milk and foods with not enough vitamin C.
Since the article is about hydrogen peroxide and the canker sores mentioned in it are not of the variety of what you mention in your commentary – it is correct. The article was never meant to replace one’s doctor’s advice – just general information. Mouth ulcers caused by abrasion, such as what you mentioned, are not considered canker sores.
Many folks today, because of their fast track living do not get enough Vitamin C – therefore a supplement is good, but as you say nothing beats Mother Nature’s source: oranges, limes, strawberries, kiwi [not the shoe polish
Source of information:
Familydoctor.org
Medical Encyclopedia (home library)
eMedicine
Not Impressed.
Keith, you’re a plethora of useless, regurgitated information, with no real knowledge of your own and not enough common sense to realize that the original poster never meant 50% hydrogen peroxide. Any idiot, even the people asking you for information, could have figured that out. Please allow me to ellaborate on my disgust with you and your site.
1) You take great pleasure in others looking up to you as a source of information, which is really an overcompensation for your insecurities.
2) Despite numerous occasions where you say you are not a qualified medical professional or chemist, you never fail to dispense medical advice or knowledge.
“Canker sores are caused by lack of Vitamin C. Try boosting your input of Vitamin C with supplements and see if canker sores are reduced or disappear.”
–False, as proven by a number of subsequent posters.
3) You dispense information without actually researching it, despite your demonstration of your ability to type phrases such as “canker sore” into Google and copy and past directly from the website. Then, when someone points out the fallacy of your statement, you claim it as your own knowledge.
Example: Mary, on August 12, asked you if it is safe to use a 1.5% solution to clean her son’s ears and remove wax. You told her you were not qualified to answer such questions. Apparently, you became qualified sometime before May 4th, when Linda asked you the same question. You told her, “…peroxide is excellent for cleaning out and loosening up ear wax that can cause problems, or is the result of an ear infection.” I believe that’s exactly what she just told you.
4) Many of your statements are flat out uneducated and false, and therefore should not have ever been said. Another example:
“Hydrogen Peroxide gas is also extremely flammable.”
“Putting it in your septic system may cause hydrogen peroxide gas to build up and the result may be an explosion.”
First, I understand that you are not a chemist. For precisely this reason, you should not dispense information without first looking it up. Hydrogen peroxide, believe it or not, does not release hydrogen peroxide gas. It decomposes to water (H2O), and Oxygen (O-, which becomes O2 spontaneously). Oxygen is not flammable. It is, however, an oxidizer, which CONTRIBUTES to the flammability of an object, and intensifies a fire. This is also how hydrogen peroxide is used as a rocket propellant, as an oxidizer. Second, where will the gas build up in your septic system? In the pipes? It will work its way out. In the tank? There’s an opening, to vent such gasses.
I’ve exhausted my point, and am quite satisfied now. I only hope the sheep that are your readers come to realize that they, too, are capable of finding out answers on their own through the magic of Google and Wikipedia. Oh, and how did I stumble upon this website? I was looking up appropriate concentration of hydrogen peroxide to use to induce apoptosis in a cell culture. In a real biology lab, as a real scientist.
You coward. You can’t even post my response. You should be ashamed of yourself and your lies. Let the people see what a gutless coward you are.
Dr. Anonymous:
Interesting “handle” … answer in rebuttal to your comments provided …
You might not be “impressed” but you impress me with your knowledge and use of the word “plethora” – and that is where it ends.
Point by point:
(1) The original posting did not mean 50% pure hydrogen peroxide, which was inserted to clarify for those who sent email inquiries only. I am sure that the readers are gratified by your analysis that they are “idiots” just because you do not agree with them (or me), instead of looking at all of this as intellectual discussion. I am sorry you are “disgusted” with me and this site. Have you tried therapy? I don’t believe that anyone who commented has claimed to be a scientist or scholar in the field that the issue is about.
(2) I do not see where you get the following idea:
Even a psychoanalysis or session with a licensed psychiatrist would allow a period of time to get to know someone they are analyzing. And, by the way, are YOU a licensed psychiatrist to be able to diagnose my condition of “insecurities”?
(3) Any “medical” statements are just that – coming from the source of research, and the disclaimer that I am not a certified (“qualified”) medical person nor ever claim to be a scientist is made quite clear. This particular posting was a concerted effort between readers and those interested in the particular subject to relay back and forth concerns as well as relay what they have found in terms of research on the topic. Poster mentioned did write that Vitamin C does not help, and this may be true in some cases and types of “canker sores” – except in the case of scurvy, as I have read the history of, et cetera. I have not countered against or refuted any writer’s relayed information provided by their doctor or dentist. That would be unethical to me. While I have a medical background (maybe I should post my credentials at the About page, but have difficulty posting this because I do not want to appear to be “bragging” – just the way I am) – I will not pretend nor try to convey anything more than my ability to comprehend what I read in medical journals and anything provided to me by qualified and genuinely certified persons such as my brother-in-law whose lifetime career has been in the field of medicine and wrote several articles in the American Medical Journal as well as head of OR Nursing Staff in a prestigious hospital located in Sacramento, California. Once again, you falsely accuse, misinterpret (have you a reading problem?) and categorize my personal character and psychological state – all based on what?
(4) “You dispense information without actually researching it” –
Myth Blaster Verdict: False.
(5)
There is nothing wrong with quoting direct passages as long as the reader knows whence it came from. I wasn’t aware that you were present when I worked on this particular posting, so I can only assume that in your twisted opinion that you are only guessing at how I perform research. As far as Google, the first two pages listed is the most read or more prestigious sources of information – that is part of their job to categorize the listings of a search and part of the search engine process. However, contrary to your belief, I have not just used the Google search engine, and, in fact, recently have used Windows Live search engine more frequently. I also use Wikipedia, et cetera … check out the links.
(6) “
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First, if the statement is mine, then it is either knowledge known or learned from research, life experience, or learned from what I have studied. Isn’t knowledge basically learned information? Degrees of knowledge can vary, but always rely on a history of study of scholarly and professional works. If you are saying that I take statement/quote from someone and hint or relay to the reader that it is my own – this is called plagiarism and to me a very serious and detrimental accusation. I only can say that I do not understand how you can conclude that. Myth Blaster Verdict: False, misleading and unfounded conclusion. One minute I am not a professional or “qualified” to make a statement and the next instance I am accused of plagiarism when I am referring to or quoting the source of information. I’m confused.
(7) The Myth Blaster issue concerning peroxide was a unique venture because it was an ongoing discussion, and as with all issues, if there are any updates that either reinforce what I write or counter it – I post it. Motto here still applies: “Searching for Truth in a Sea of Information” – and furthermore, if it appears or someone addresses a correction to be made I not only answer that person but post that (after verification) under the category of “Corrections”. I am not infallible, and more so because I cannot afford to hire a staff of hand picked folks whose specialties on various issues/subject material is certified. I wish I could. But I digress … In regards to Linda, the nature of commentary is like a personal discussion back and forth, in case you are unfamiliar, and if I repeated myself, well, I can only say – “Sorry about that – so persecute me.” If I misconstrued what a person writes for any reason, I want to know. My statement reflected as stated that I was referring this in the article posted for those who might know that the over-the-shelf hydrogen peroxide is a 3% solution – and if mistake was made, I once again rewrote that I was referring in that particular instance to a 50% of pure hydrogen peroxide and not 50% of the 3% over-the-counter hydrogen peroxide. If this was unclear that is on me.
(8)
Did I ever state that I was a chemist? If it appears that I have alluded such, please quote. And I reiterate here, despite the fact I am repeating what was already written … according to Wikipedia entry (and other sources):
>“Hydrogen peroxide was first isolated in 1818 by Louis Jacques Thénard by reacting barium peroxide with nitric acid. An improved version of this process used hydrochloric acid, followed by sulphuric acid to precipitate the barium sulfate byproduct. …used in rocketry (particularly in high concentrations as high-test peroxide (HTP) as a monopropellant, and in bipropellant systems. Swallowing hydrogen peroxide solutions is particularly dangerous, as decomposition in the stomach releases large quantities of gas (10 times the volume of a 3% solution) leading to internal bleeding. Inhaling over 10% can cause severe pulmonary irritation. [incited statement] … MSDS will contain more information on the risks of working with this chemical. … hydrogen peroxide can give off vapor that can detonate above 70-degrees C at normal atmospheric pressure. This can then cause a boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion (BLEVE) of the remaining liquid.”
While this is the extreme, our septic service if releasing that concentration of hydrogen peroxide (this is an extreme circumstance) can be dangerous combined with waste-produced gases in septic tanks. Of course, if you have a city sewerage system, this probably does not apply. You are correct that there are vents to release any build up of gas that causes the pressure-release venting system to release it before it builds up to dangerous levels; however the cautionary statement still applies according to the septic service folks and state recommended warnings. The build up of gas, according to sources, does not have to be the point of venting in order for this dangerous circumstance to occur. Once again, this is only precautionary and does not concern those who use household strengths of hydrogen peroxide. If I did not make that clear, shame upon me.
Now, I too am “exhausted at this point” – the commentary on the subject material went further in terms of time and quantity than originally expected, but that is not a critical statement, merely an observation and it appears this is what the readers wanted – but that was the choice of the “sheep” who visit and drop a line of comment do and rightly so. The readership is the basis for all of this and the interaction that results in intellectual discussion. Those readers, to whom you sarcastically refer to as “sheep” are incorrectly categorized – they are not required to agree or disagree, this is based upon their own ideology, views, et cetera.
And the reason or circumstance that made you stop by is of no concern to me except in personal interest, and if you were looking for an “appropriate concentration of hydrogen peroxide to use to induce apoptosis in a cell culture” – who stopped at the wrong place. Nothing in this e-journal claims to be a source of specific scientific expertise or part of some medical entity that can produce such information.
You claim to be a biological scientist, and well, I do not have the information to refute that, but then again, neither have you posted any credentials (this is not required by anyone). Commentaries within this blog and others are provided to enact an interaction between the publisher/author as well as between themselves. This is why I have change the format of this e-journal to a straight blog system.
It would have been so very pleasant to have received your accredited knowledge on the subject material minus the insults upon those who commented and myself as the author of the posted article and the publisher of this e-journal. However, like your coined “handle” given, you are “Dr. Anonymous” – which is your prerogative to use instead of your real name.
I am curious to know if you are politically a liberal/progressive. Based upon your accusations and innuendos, it certainly appears to be so – but cannot say, I don’t know you or have you specifically mentioned this. My major thoughts is that you are – based upon your opinionated (nothing wrong with opinion, unless it is based upon contradictory of established facts) – I can only make an educated guess. But then again, my education is irrelevant to yours, apparently.
The over all Myth Blaster score for your commented rebuttal is: rude, defamatory, unjustified for the most part, and just plain unprofessional. I hope you are a better biology “scientist” than you are as a critic of this e-journal endeavor.
Have you read any other issues within LP Journal? I just asked because an overall rating by you seems to relay that this whole endeavor is a waste of time. In reality, you sir, have wasted mine and only because of your unfairness in your rebuttal/evaluation. I reiterate, I am not a scientist, as you claim to be, nor am I your frustrated emotional sounding board to pounce upon – and my readers certainly do not qualify to be called names and be categorized in lowly terms such as you have relayed here. Not everyone is a scientist, a lawyer, or a scholar of political scientist – but since so much relies on qualifications here in your derogatory statements, I turn to ask you – What exactly are your professed qualifications? And where in heaven’s name gives you the right to rebut someone who provides links to sources without any source material on your part, other than your claim to be a “real scientist”? Apparently you didn’t read the “About LPJ” otherwise you would have noticed that I have provided a personal background paragraph therein. Of course, this certainly wouldn’t justify printing anything that is known to be false or whatever else you have accused me of.
The ball is back in your court.
I would appreciate it if you would be more professional in your commentary if you so choose to continue this discussion. But that is only a personal request.
And in answer to your second posting: If you read “About LPJ” you may have noticed that I am forced to moderate comments, unless they are designated established commentators, which you are now so established – because of security and anti-Spam reasons this annoying procedure must be performed. Otherwise, I would have comment postings that link to pornography, vile expressions not appropriate, and unauthorized attempts to advertise using the commentary feature provided. Everything is addressed, to include guest writer’s submissions and other pertinent issues. Comments are encouraged whether you agree or disagree with what is written here either by me or the participating guest writers and those who provide their comments. I prefer to have intellectual discussions, like those provided by Ken R from Tennessee, whether I agree or disagree is not the major issue; and unlike your commented rebuttal, courteously and professional provide sources to back your opinions and statements. I have edited and ensured that the personal background and any academic accomplishments and education are present for anyone to examine – despite the hesitation of printing this, I have been encouraged by readers to do so via email. Even the room in which I have available here in my abode with its limited space because of my collection of books that is my passion, you will find only one “I love me” example upon the walls, and it is my Defense Meritorius Medal award that I am proud of receiving from the U.S. Department of Army signed by the Secretary of Defense Office in 1990 for my service in the NATO command at LSE Southeast, Izmir, Turkey, just a few months before my assignment to the 11th Signal Brigade which participated in the Persian Gulf War/Kuwait Liberation campaign that began with Operation Desert Storm and through Operation Desert Calm.
However, I apologize for your comment not being instantaneously posted, because of reasons aforementioned, and any inconvenience that has been caused by your impatient nature. If you choose to continue this discussion in a form of commentary, you will find that your postings will now be instantaneous. I take pride in being fair and objective here and if I relay any sentiment or reason to be coined as a “Mr. Know-It-All” – than I apologize for the misconception or any factor written here that makes such an impression. I am merely a person whose interests are expanded, sometimes to the point where it seems I cannot keep up or even find the time to cover them all – but that was the original intent of this e-journal that was founded as sort of a newsletter back in 1999.
And, you comment has encouraged me to relay my personal background for readers to check out, despite my hesitation to write an “About Me” page because I feel it is a form of bragging; however, you have brought up the topic that has encouraged me to go ahead and place this within “About LPJ” for the benefit or use by whoever reads, comments or submits a guest writer essay or Op/Ed to my email address.
Besides, all said and done and ignoring the rudeness parts of your commentary(ies), I thank you for taking the time to submit that comment and apologize once again for the delay. I can only say that I must sift through a large quantity of email each and every day, and that sometimes when researching a preparing for the next posting I slip behind my own established schedule. Another reason why I wish I had a staff and that the LP Journal was my full-time preoccupation. I enjoy the interaction, despite of any negative comments – but then this also is part of the fairness I try so hard to present and enact when dealing with correspondence. In terms of “hate mail” – your comments are mild, believe me; however I still post them, some being edited of abusive language only. In your case, despite rude passages, no editing was required.
Have a nice day and good luck on your endeavors involving your work in inducing apoptosis in a cell culture and any other important scientific endeavors. Maybe you just got up on the wrong side of the bed when you posted, or maybe I hit some sort of nerve. Regardless, I am sorry I relayed any wrong impression, et cetera, that you have perceived as such.
To Friends of LPJ and New Readers:
I apologize for the rude comments concerning you and hope this does not discourage any of you from writing. I know that some folks are shy and rather send email instead of posting comments, but I encourage you to do so to relate any information, advice and/or opinions you have that others can read. Like Abraham Lincoln said: “You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.”
Sometimes readers do not have the time to resource everything, so they check in at this site, is that a crime? Sometimes people who stop by just want another opinion or written material based upon facts, but with a different approach – so they stop by and “sit a spell”. Does that make them “sheep” as you call reader/commentators? Really, Dr. Anonymous.
Now, I really need to get the weekly Door County Fishing Report done and published … enuff said.
[...] [III] I have no idea how much, if any, of the rest of the site this person actually read. This comment referred to a Myth Blaster posting. [...]
Where, Oh where, can Dr. Anonymous be?
I think of this site as a ‘good ole country folks’ talk on the porch of the local barber’ turned up a notch or two. Dr. Anonymous only thinks inside of his self-centered grandiose intelligent world and looks down on anyone who doesn’t have his “knowledge” (which by the way is not the same as wisdom). Wisdom is more valuable than knowledge, whereas it uses knowledge only through the vehicle of love for what is best for everyone concerned, rather than to puff himself up and look good to the onlookers.
Jana:
My grandfather has a barber shop once.
I picture the “discussers” here sitting on the front porch of the lighthouse overlooking the bay.
Dr. Anonymous should be pitied, I guess. He professes to understand microbes in the laboratory maybe he lacks people contact, thus making him so rude to folks.
Thanks for your comment, Jana.
If you mix 3% HP with tap water, it defeats the purpose of HP! The chlorine in you tap water is their to fight bacteria, but causes problems for the chemical structure of HP. By the way, if you couldn’t see the 50/50 meaning, you shouldn’t be in your position of a Myth Blaster.
Dr. J. Spicolie:
Thank you for your expert information.
By the way … I have a category entitled “Corrections” for a reason. A reader pointed out a mistake and I corrected it.
Thanks for the info, your rudeness will be ignored.
Thanks for stopping by anyway.
Whoever interpreted this needs a lesson in English. The email said 50/50 mixture. A 50/50 mixture is a mixture of 2 substances, using equal amounts of each substance. It did NOT say to use a strength of 50% peroxide. For example a cup of apple juice and a cup of vinegar (mixed together) would be a 50/50 mixture OR a teaspoon of vanilla and a teaspoon of water (mixed together) would be a 50/50 mixture.
My microbiology professor said using peroxide to clean wounds created an anaerobic environment (without air) which is just the environment preferred by Chlostridium tetani (tetanus), Chlostridium perfringens (gas gangrene) and Chlostridium botulinum (botulism).
Taking this to another level makes me leary of cleaning cutting boards with it also. If you use straight detergent (lots) and elbow grease(lots) with a bristle brush and follow that with hot (very) water you can clean a cutting board without bleach etc. The main idea is to get the bacteria off the cutting board and out of the micro cuts in the surface of the board. No matter what you do a quick wash and rinse is not going to do the job – just like instant handwashing doesn’t . They teach little kids to wash hands to Yankee Doodle (1 minute per verse); so sing while you clean!!!
As to Dr. Anonymous why would a scientist look on the general web for the info that was wanted? A scientist would use Proquest and look in scientific journals for similar research.
It is good to have a place where folks can look for further info on all the “truth” from cyberspace. You seem to try to be careful to identify what is your opinion and what is from another source. However, just because something was once used doesn’t mean that it is safe i.e merthiolate as a disinfectant or fluoroscopes in shoe stores.
I lament the passing of “Dobell’s solution” which was a staple of our sore throat treatment (c 1950-60) but it contains phenol and there are safer things to use. This is the same thing that happened to Phisohex (a disinfectant soap of the 70’s)
Raven:
Thank you for your interesting and informative comment, it is appreciated.
Yes, Phisohex was used in my mother’s household until it was taken off the market.
I am not familar with “Dobell’s Solution”; however the best remedy for a sore throat over any product that I have found at the pharmacy is a gargling with a couple of ounces of warm water and a tablespoon of common salt. It is something I learned when I had pheumonia in the Army at the Army hospital. It may not deaden the soreness – but it sure heals up the throat effectively and combined with antiobiotics prescribed – I was soon on my feet in no time.
Thanks for sharing and stopping by to visit LP Journal. Your future comments should post immediately – unfortunately the moderation thing is to prevent spammers from commenting and others who enjoy putting obscene words and links within the comment.
Again, welcome and hope to hear from you again.
PS – the challenge with Dr. Anonymous turned out as I suspected – a hoaxer, a haggler and probably a rude leftist. Who knows. I am used to such things and do not let it bother me.
You wouldn’t be the “Raven” that lives in Georgia, would you? I once corresponded with a person by the handle of “Raven” – but lost communication.
Take care … Keith
You do not list references.
Catherine:
References/sources are listed in the article, as well as some of the commentary.
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I would like to add my two cents about the canker sore debate, even though that wasn’t what the original article was about.
First, I don’t believe that the same virus (herpes) that causes cold sores also causes canker sores, although since a definitive cause for the latter hasn’t been found, I remain open to that possibility.
Regarding Vitamin C against canker sores: while vitamin deficiency likely plays a role in their formation, the most common form of vitamin C (ascorbic acid), taken in pill form, will likely contribute to canker sore appearance. This is because one of the triggers for canker sores in many people is food acidity. This is why it is usually recommended to avoid citrus fruits and cooked tomatoes if you are susceptible to canker sores.
In my experience, the number one thing that people who suffer from canker sores (about 20% of the population) must do to prevent their recurrence, is to switch toothpastes to one that does not contain sodium lauryl sulphate (SLS). SLS is a detergent used in most toothpastes as a foaming agent. In susceptible individuals, it removes a protective coating (mucin) from the mouth over time and sets the stage for canker sores.
I’ve written extensively about the problem on my website, which you can view here:
http://www.acankersorecure.com
Thank you.
I’m 70 years old and very new to computers (who would haver thought that I….) certainly not myself. I happened on this blog by chance. (glad I did) I’m in a wheelchair and can use only one arm – I was looking for information relating to removing stains from my false teeth. I know Hydrogen Peroxide is a whitening agent but did not know if it might harm the plastic material used in false teeth. I’ve read everything posted here, including your well reasoned responses.
I was very disappointed in “Doctor” Anonymous’ language. As a Christian and of course an ardent conservative, I personally try the “catch more flies with honey than vinegar” approach.
Jesus wasn’t as ‘meek and mild’ as some would believe. Definitely not when driving ‘money changers’ out of the Temple. But even when provoked, He was courteous for the most part.(He did not fail to call liars – liars, etc.)
Can I safely use hp to whiten and remove (I think they’re tobacco) stains?
Thanks – Fred
Fred Sinclair:
You wouldn’t happen to be married to a lady from England, would you?
I found another link to check out along with those provided in the article:
http://www.venusproject.com/ethics_in_action/hydrogen_peroxide_therapy.html
As far as Doctor Anonymous, I believe he was a hoaxer – not really a doctor – but who knows?
Thank you for your kind words. Let me know if you like any of the other articles on varied subjects, when you have the time.
Now, for your question: Will Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) harm false teeth?
First H2O2 helps prevent gum disease and can actually help with the fight against bad breath. An excellent website concerning cleaning false teeth can be found at:
http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/cleanfalseteet_shcl.htm
Another good source concerning cleaning:
http://dent.info.md/dental-care/about-tooth-cleaning/
Also this link provides information as to how good 10% carbamide peroxide is for cleaning teeth and safety issues:
http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v187/n4/full/4800237a.html
An interesting article concerning bleaching can be found at:
http://www.doctorspiller.com/bleaching.htm
And, last, but not least, I would suggest that you consult your dentist. He stays on top of what is going on. Most false teeth are made of modern material that is better than they used to be. AS far as my research, it is a green light using peroxide in the prescribed amount for cleaning your teeth.
Thanks for stopping by and visiting LP Journal and taking the time to share your comment. I hope we hear from you now and then in the future.
Best Regards …
I have found some information that hydrogen peroxide has been shown to damage growing tissues and is no longer recommended as a disinfectant and may retard healing of tissues. (one of these reports is found at: http://www.kendallhq.com/catalog/ClinicalInformation/WOUND%20CLEANSING.pdf)
Furthermore, a study reported on Medscape found that hydrogen peroxide at the 3% concentration was not effective as an antiseptic on living tissue. I presume that this is because living tissue contains components that rapidly inactivate H2O2, and at less than 3% H2O2 is not an effective germicide. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/456300_3
I am also concerned that Staph aureus, a cause of tragically antibiotic-resistant infections (MRSA), etc contains catalase with very quickly inactivates hydrogen peroxide, making it, therefore, more likely to survive than the benign bacteria on the skin.
I admire the effort to seek truth. However, I am deeply troubled at the apparently inadequate response posted in this “myth” response. I found the information above in only a couple minutes. Far less time than has been spent in responding to readers’ comments.
Carolyn:
Thanks for taking the time to comment and visit …
I presume you are referring to item number 6 –
“Soak any infections or cuts in 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes several times a day”
In the military, because of the nature of wounds, debriding is sometimes required, and with that extensive amount of tissue damage – the cleansing with just plain saline solution (flush) as stated. The comment examined above is for common cuts. Personally I wash it thoroughly and just let nature take its course. Never had a problem. So the underlying factor here is the nature of the wound. This is not a medical journal, nor was it intended to be. The email was presented to me and my job was to give it a “myth blast”. Although I have combat medical training, I do not present to anyone here that I am certified to give medical advise or anything of that nature.
The reason why we were instructed to do what I just described is for the reason you mentioned. Again, there are missile wounds, tears, abrasions, et cetera and just as they are caused by different reasons, so does the first aid change. In addition, it has been found that bees honey is the best healer and prevents heavy scarring in some nasty wounds. A method that is probably at least 3,200 years old, first used by the ancient Egyptians. In the recent decade or two, natural remedies using material from natural sources has been popular – when in reality they are only reestablishing what has been used for ages – finally approved by the medical authorities to be like FDA and the American Medical Journal.
I do not know what your medical background is, just as the questionable “Dr. Anonymous”; however this is just a forum and I agree with Raven’s comment.
The reference was for only common cuts – no mention of advanced problems, like that which occur in the battlefield conditions. Back up antibiotic application is usually in order for prevention of bacterial problems you have mentioned.
I don’t understand what myth “response” you are troubled about. Once again, a discussion (as far as comments) on the article at hand.
If you are referring to me, author of the article, than I have no response.
I am sure that information can be found “in a couple of minutes” – but information as to what? What you are writing about is beyond the scope of what was written here – and once again, it was not intended to be a thorough medical examination of wounds – which one could do in one volume – an entire book on just wounds, complications and treatments.
I am a nurse who had Candida from my mercury fillings. I have tried many things to see what helps. I have a three-step plan. Yes hydrogen peroxide does help usin 50/50 in nose and in the mouth full strength.
after reading all that stuff I have smoke comming out of ears
I still dont know what is 50/50 ? 50/50 of 3%
Gunther N:
The original use was 50/50 solution, pure Peroxide, not 50/50 of the 3% that can be bought off the shelf at your local pharmacy/Wal-Mart.
Basic rule, as with all products, is: Read the directions on the bottle.
As a nurse pointed out and is in my home library medical books, including those from military medical experts, peroxide is not good for damaged tissues, as in deep, open-cut wounds. The directions on the bottles of peroxide states “minor cuts”. Sterile water or saline solution irrigated in deep wounds and those with extensive tissue damage is best and the proper dressing to protect wound from infection and soak up seepage. Otherwise peroxide is a handy thing around the house. Before mouth wash there was peroxide, rinsed thoroughly in the mouth, followed by water rinse, it kills bacteria that promotes gum disease, et cetera.
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts.
I am plagued by chronic sinusitis, and find that squirting the mixture of HP and water up my nose is an affective means of curing my sinus infections. Although I found that the 50/50 mixture was too concentrated and tended to create a burning feeling, so I weakened the mixture to about 25 % HP to 75% water. I usually do this twice a day followed by a nasal wash, although the cure is slower then most antibiotics; I have yet to develop immunity to the solution as I have to most antibiotics.
Dr. Anonymous.
You are ignorant through the arrogance your studied conjecture has induced. You are the regurgitator of knowledge. Knowledge that insulates the obvious.
details that distort the bigger picture.
Truth is, when oxygen theraphy is used world over and generally accepted, oncology will cease to exist,
medicines will become redundant, bar pain killers, and doctors and pharmaceutical Giants will cease to make lots and lots of money out of misdirection.
Treat the problem not the symptom.
Our bodies are full of waste build ups. unclog them, the way nature designed us to, with oxygen, and we will function properly. The body is a machine that cleans itself. We just don’t breathe enough.
Don’t be blind, and don’t blind others.
Doctors sell drugs and instill fear.
You have been given knowledge at institutions.
This is not wisdom, which comes from observation.
I put highly dilute peroxide in my ears often.
have been doing it for years.
Kills flus, and anerobic pests. (gets to the back part of nose and throat through ears..)
I drink highly dilute peroxide on a daily basis. (6 drops of 12%, 3 times daily.)
!ONLY EVER ON A COMPLETELY EMPTY STOMACH!
This way it passes into my blood stream and doesn’t react with my food.
I bathe in it (300ml 12% per bath) when I need to detox.
It kills fungus. dead.
It kills anaerobes (None of which are good for you)
In the body.
It removes malformed cells (ie. tumours)
It destroys lipid-envelope viruses. Beyond recognition.
Oxidises them to CO2 and H20. gone. period.
Your body replaces itself constantly.
Nutrients build us up, oxygen breaks us down (cleans out old, damaged cells). Without the bad cell removal there can be no new growth.
Why our bodies need the aid is because clean-up is low priority. Oxygen is used for movement (calorie burning) mainly. left over oxygen destroys whatever is most vulnerable. ie invaded cells that host pathogens, damaged and malformed cells, and anything else that’s not supposed to be there.
Unless you exercise or meditate, you probably don’t have much residual oxygen in your blood stream on a regular basis.
The major thing in Oxygen therapies, and only point of concern is dosage. Rather dose low (not too low though, will defeat the purpose.. ) and do it for longer.
Ahh.. ok I’m done.
Wait.. blast this:
Pharmaceuticals are ineffectual, and unnecessarily expensive. They are not normally found in the body, why do we put them there? they play no part in our natural curative inner-body mechanisms. The FDA, the medical add sponsored media and the oil giants that provide pharmaceutical companies with raw materials don’t want us to know that H2O2, and all other oxygen supplementation, can be used to cure (by immune system re-inforcement) because it cannot be patented or exploited and sorts out the problem quickly and completely so requires no constant and long term expensive therapy? O3 and H2O2 cost basically nothing to make. administration should not be costly either.
Aware:
Myles, it looks like “Dr. Anonymous” got your dander up. If indeed the person is a doctor.
Interesting points about homeopathy, something that I have been long following and I follow your point about the modern world of medicine. My personal doctor agrees with homeopathy, but still uses prescribed medications when necessary. He says that there isn’t any reason why we cannot take advantage of nature’s abundance of healthful beneficial ingredients that often prevents from having to come see him. I find Dr. Anclam a refreshing person in the field of medicine.
However, to blame it all on the pharmaceutical companies is not really fair. The whole cycle picture of health care itself involves more than that. Yet a recent article I read shows that too many doctors cater to the pharmaceutical entity. I am fortunate to have the doctor I have who keeps up with modern medicine, sees the properties that nature provides, and tries to keep patient’s cost of healthcare down. A responsible person.
Other factors wrong with the healthcare system is the hospital institutions. You might be interested in the posting concerning the revelation of what healthcare is like in Canada, versus what myths may have been heard or read about. Find it under the subject category “Healthcare”.
Thanks for your contribution and stopping by to visit.
Thanks for the reply Keith.
You’re right my statements were a bit sweeping and blameful..
Sure did get my dander up. I just don’t trust people who want to sell me stuff as a general rule, but I suppose there are exceptions.
“The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it’s open” – anon
I appreciate the content of your response, esspecially the reference to homeopathy, but my myth has still not been fully addressed though..
Do you think there is a degree of suppression, with regards to oxygen therapies, within the medical industry by those that keep the status in the quo (the foremost being the FDA)?
I know it’s a conspiracy theory, but could it be valid?
Myles:
I don’t know, friend, about the conspiracy of oxygen therapy – this is the first anyone mentioned it. But then, at least in cyberspace, there is a multitude of conjecture on conspiracy – real and imagined or on the border of just mysterious.
Presently I am researching a so-called conspiracy that alleges that the US government has established and maintained internment camps in various locations. Specifically it describes the transgressions of certain natives in Alaska during World War II in the fight against subversive activities there by the Imperial Japanese government at the time and certain attempted insertions there.
If you have any valid points to make concerning this, feel free to send an essay on the subject to my email address. Don’t forget to provide sources to back up your paper. Guest writers are welcome here.
Best Regards …
Please tell me is hydrogen peroxide safe to take with water to cleanse the body of an internal yeast overgrowth?
If so how much and for how long?
Thank you
dgmlmax:
I am not an MD – check with your doctor. This was just a point of interest story.
Thanks for your comment and interest.
Best Regards …
Emil:
Obviously you didn’t read the correction I posted a while back; however, since others may have made that particular oversight – I have added a comment to the comment that caused the confusion that I apparently caused.
Thanks for pointing this out in a slightly better manner than Doctor Anonymous – who could very well be you, since he didn’t provide a real name.
And now, since you are so critical about an old issue, something written back in 2006, plus the same demeanor of Dr. Anonymous and the same personality.
I throw the curve ball back to you – do your research before making snide remarks about someone else’s errors.
And no one requires to “read through this garbage” – I am sure the commentators just LOVE you calling their comments, thoughts, questions and whatever comes to their mind “GARBAGE”.
You must have gone to the same school of Dr. Ass****, I mean “Anonymous.”
I really shouldn’t get angry over village idiots – but calling readers comments “garbage” just sent me over the edge.
Throughout the discussion I mentioned that I was not a doctor, a chemist, a rocket scientist or a patient person with morons like you and the professed doctor. Which again, leads me to think they are one and the same and you finally had the intestinal fortitude to give out your real name.
Please do everyone a favor and keep your rude, asinine remarks for the left-wing bloggers who don’t give a damn. Come to think of it – neither do I.
Patience is thin with morons like you.
I apologize to my regular readers for snapping back at this buffoon.
Take the mold out of your own eye before looking to remove from others – and do your research before making rude and inflammatory remarks. Correction was made. I added the comment at the comment for updated correction for morons like you. Now – with over 1,300 articles since then and you say this all is trash because of one simple error – you HAVE to be a full flaming liberal who has nothing better to do and whose life is so mundane as to nit pick at others. Pointing out that some people should be directed to the correction is one thing – the rest is uncalled for.
Since 1999 I have read many things, called many things, but for some reason your comment hit the button. Like I said, maybe it is because you referred to people’s commentary as “garbage”. Go to PR school or sit on the toilet and get rid of your attitude.
And … “Neither would I” what?
Certainly not the “Best Regards” to you – you impolite %$%$%%
Dear Keith,
Many thanks for your comments regarding this article on HP. I received it only recently from a family member and was pleased to hear there was an alternative to bleach. I have small children….
It also answered some questions regarding the effect HP may have on our septic system.
Admittedly, I admire your tenacity regarding the many and various comments. I applaud your courage; it was truly an education not only in the uses of HP but also regarding the menagerie of individual’s …um… input (?). My education and training is in the field of Physics, however the breadth of my career has been as a non-employed mother; raising children, maintaining a home, and tutoring ‘hard-to-educate’ children (bright but uninterested kids).
Before I had my family, I was employed by The National Academy of Sciences in Washington, DC (I was NOT one of the appointed scientists). As a staff member, my task was to field and direct the discussions that our scientists had been assigned. Often a specific collaboration would take interesting ‘turns’, at times venturing into subjects potentially harmful to a scientist’s ego (notice I avoided the term ‘delicate’). I learned a great deal about pragmatism and ‘productive’ arguments; but mostly about leaving the ego behind and relying on the facts (… ma’am, just the facts). AND IT WAS A HARD-after all, I was a paltry staff member sitting with Giants. However, when I intervened, they remained true to their work with polite yet distinct professionalism. I was proud to know them.
Indeed, keep up your fine work. You are an asset to our society, and I enjoy your truth(s) and admissions.
Thanks, Sara for sharing your concerns and findings concerning this subject material.
And, a blushed thank you for your kind words and accolade …
You have an interesting educational background, and I appreciate your expertise on this matter.
Although I repeatedly conveyed that this article was written upon found research material and from the aspect of a qualified doctor and/or scientist, but as you can see sometimes folks forget to read that part. It is readers like you who make this whole conversation and e-journal interesting and intellectual. Hope to hear from you again on other topics of your interest (as well as expertise).
Drop me an email if you are interested in being a member of the Friends of LPJ, and I will arrange it. Nothing out of ordinary and not a periodical newsletter, just an occasional update notice or something I feel may be important or interesting – or just to say hello to my wonderful cyberspace friends from many places around this marvelous planet we call Earth. I am looking forward to my first extraterrestrial commentator.
Joking aside, despite your confession of only being “administrative” – I would like to convey the wisdom that all gears in a box make the machinery work.
Best Regards …
KAL
PS – A long while ago I had the pleasure of seeing/visiting Harpers Ferry, West Virgina, a truly beautiful place in a beautiful state. Best to you and yours.
Quills:
I just re-read this series of commentary and did not address you – probably miffed over “Dr. Anonymous” and his unfair and rude comment.
First of all, to readers – Quills is a remarkable women, a jack-of-all-trades, who has learned to skin and tan hides, to include buffalo hides – and puts it to good use like the first Americans (First Nation, or Native Americans) did generation after generation for eons. She is wise and would highly suggest one take her advice.
Quills is one of the blessings of having this e-journal – among many others from places like Denmark, United Kingdom (England, Wales, Ireland, and Scotland), South Africa, Australia, et cetera.
Quills lives in Iowa and regularly attends “Rendezvous” that are reenactments of the annual trading/recreation get-togethers of American history. Like I said, she grows her own vegetables, processes meat, et cetera – a real impressive American.
Thanks, Quills for being an important part of this e-journal, and all those who regularly take the time to read and submit commentary.
You need to change your evaluation. It is all true and I have personally evaluated much of it. It does relieve pain related to dental problems – by reducing infection. The author was obviously speaking of 3% hydrogen peroxide solution (which is the only kind available to us consumers). Your ‘false’ evaluations give readers the wrong impression and they are based on nitpicking. It would be better to simply clarify that the message is referring to 3% hydrogen peroxide solution.
C. Green:
Thank you for taking the time sharing your opinion.
However, it is quite clear in Item#1 (individual examination of each) where it clearly states 3% solution that is over the counter.
If you would have read through the comments you would have found that a clarification had already been published under the Correctionsn category:
http://lighthousepatriotjournal.wordpress.com/2007/08/03/correction-use-of-hydrogen-peroxide/
And, so, of course, you are correct, as the article is that it is OVER-THE-COUNTER, and as it stated clearly.
The article, since the correction was made, only caused by a typo or rather not being clear enough does not constitute falseness. Since I already apologized and thanked the person who pointed this out – that part of the case is closed and has been for some time.
Let’s move on to more recent articles …
KAL
there are many errors in this!
FIRST
NEVER USE PEROXIDE more than once on a cut! the first time it works, but it also kills the flesh and increases healing time.
secondly, bleach is actually SAFE ON SEPTIC SYSTEMS! it breaks down to salt and water….
Anthony:
“there are many errors in this!”
You named two – one was already addressed (the bleach comment), which was only an oversight on my part and I didn’t address it.
And the the first you mention wasn’t mentioned in the article.
Errors? Where are the “many” errors?
I was trained in combat medical procedures, and peroxide can be used to initially clean a wound (3%), but not used repeatedly because of the reasons you have written. This is also taught at nursing institutions, et cetera, and can even be found in the Special Forces medical handbook, of which I have a copy in my library.
Despite my medical background, as I stated in the article and commentary … I am not a certified doctor or medical person. I related what I know and what I obtained from credible sources, as well as providing sources for further reading.
If I have missed errors or typos, please let me know. I always welcome constructive criticism that is based upon sourced fact.
It’s glaringly obvious that when the article states “50/50″, it means Half 3% over-the-counter peroxide solution and Half water. The beginning of the article itself states that it is so “plain little old bottle of 3% peroxide that you can get for approx $1.00 at any drug store.” It is somewhat frightening that this blogger can’t understand such an obvious thing.
Jude:
It’s “glaringly obvious” that you haven’t read through the article, the commentary or visited the correction page.
It’s “glaringly obvious” that you are rude and don’t pay attention to detail.
The confusion was because I was discussing peroxide, not just the strength off the shelf, but industrial and pharmaceutical strengths (confusion on my part when the addressing a commentator).
Now, done with old news, old comments, old subject – let’s move on.
I am a citizen journalist, a writer – not Superman or Spiderman, just a human being. I made a mistake, owed up to it, there was just misunderstanding and corrected it.
Don’t you have anything constructive and intellectual to input, besides demonstrating that you are quick to jump with insults before knowing the “rest of the story”?
If making a mistake is “frightening” to you – you might consider some therapy.
Rudeness abounds in blogs – this is an e-journal, be rude somewhere else.
I believe you have commented elsewhere, but its hard to tell when people just use a first name – which I have requested to use a unique handle or at least initial of a surname to distinguish liked named individuals, et cetera. I don’t remember that you were so rude – having a bad day?